this is a video of the roof taken from the southwest corner of the property
this is a 360 degree video from the southwest corner of the property
Thursday, October 29, 2009
Tuesday, October 27, 2009
RECAP and ACTION ITEMS from meeting with Winters-Schram
Meeting 10.27.09
Participants: Carina, Martin, John, Lisa
Lisa described Evo role with LAMOTH. We discussed liability and responsibility for green roof system and irrigation. Evo will provide full planting plan and make recommendations on green roof companies, contractors and components: including growing media, slope retention and drainage. evo will also make reccomendations on irrigation. All will be collaborated on and coordinated with WSA and BA. We discussed the components already specified (ie epro and J Drain). The schedule has changed and winters-schram is now looking to apply roof membrane at the end of november and the SE corner of the garage location (Q-13) on drawing A.2 1a. We discussed fill for concrete and bedding areas.
action items:
1. Evo will coordinate meeting over the next week with Martin of WSA with Roofscapes, Hydrotech, Conservation Technology, so he can determine best practice.
2. Evo will provide specs for planting areas on SE side.... with planting mix specs and media weights.
3. Carina will speak to Mark and Hagy about getting planting plan approval done ASAPon thursday's meeting.
4. Carina and Evo will coordinate to make sure they have updated schedule and plans.
5. Evo will provide planting plan to WSA after approval from LAMOTH and BA. so that it can be bid and contracted.
please add or change anything that is incorrect or needs to be ammended
thank you!
Sunday, October 25, 2009
Questions for Winters-Schram
1. Green roof contractor/ design/ warranty issues: Due to time, schedule, concerns we propose that winters-schram contract with one of the following thus increasing their ability to get best pricing, warranty and have most barganing power to get best product, best warranty and fastest installation. The following recommendations will provide specifications based on existing site conditions( ie steep roof slopes and proposed designs of grading and plants.)
1. Roofscapes: Charlie Miller: He will provided Design, Supply optigreen parts, and bid out to certified contractors. They will provide warranty for everything above the membrane.
2. Conservation Technology: Lee Glaslow: They provide design and supply parts and specifications, which Winters-Schram can then bid.
3. Hydrotech: waterproofing and all of the above. They will offer total warranty for whole system. There is a chance that Hydrotech will provide and specs and warranty above the membrane.
Evo will provide contact, recommendations, general guidance as well as due diligence.
2. Irrigation Contractor: Again due to schedule we propose that winters-schram contract directly with an irrigation designer/ contractor so as to get best pricing as many products come with designer/ warranty etc...the connections to roof also need to be in place ASAP. Initial Questions focus on segue btw architecture and landscape. Tap locations and sizes, water pressure in G.P.M. and electrical needs to runs system. Are there sleeves in the parapet walls to accommodate irrigation
Evo will need to work directly with irrigation contactor/designer to accommodate proposed design especially with regards to slopes, growing media and plant establishment, LEED requirements, and client audience expectations.
Below are a few options:
1. KissUSA they have designers in CA and it is irrigation specifically for green roofs. Their system may be beneficial for sloped areas.
2. Local irrigation designers: Habitat Gardens, other Winters- Schrams contacts
3. Does anyone with Belzberg, Winters- Schram or LAMOTH have connections with NETAFIM for possible donations?
3. Site Visits: Can we schedule these ahead of time so we can be present when needed. Are there other things going on with the building ( like back fill ) in the next few weeks that require decisions/recommendations on our part? How does building schedule interface with Landscape design and install?
1. reorganize construction admin with contract for cost based on number of site visits to clarify contract.
2. Collaborative scheduling for time and cost savings
Saturday, October 24, 2009
Point load question
what is the point load on the top of the steep south facing slope? (the reason being we will being hanging the slope retention system from the highest point and there will be a downward pressure on the structure as it is not balanced on the other side)
Epro Liner
Do you know if there is an embedded root barrier in the Epro liner? if not, is it a possibility?
softscape - hardscape clarification
Is this the right take on softscape and hardscape? Please advise. Please also provide clarification of east side of site. thanks, Karla
Proposed meeting agendas and deliverables:
Oct 22- Introductory meeting, conceptual, program and technical discussion.
Oct 29- Presentation of conceptual statement; reference images / general plant ideas reflecting our concept. Questions about the building, construction schedule. Collaboration on concept development.
*Nov 5- Presentation to architects and client (including Hagy and Mark) of preliminary plans and proposed plant material. General critique.
Nov 12- Presentation of schematic plans, preliminary specifications, and plant schedule with images. Collaboration on design development.
Nov 19-Presentation of planting plan and plant schedule, specifications, and preliminary maintenance manual. Collaboration on design development.
*Dec. 19- Presentation to architects and client (including Hagy and Mark) of design development: plant plans, plant schedules, specifications, and maintenance manual.
Please give us your feedback and suggestions for changes/amendments/additions. Thanks, K
Thursday, October 22, 2009
Meeting minutes 10-22-09
Los Angeles Museum of the Holocaust
Landscape Design Meeting
Thursday, October 22, 11:00am
Present: Carina Bien-Willner, Aaron Leppanen, Lisa Lee Benjamin, Karla Dakin
Minutes
The conversation started around technical aspects of the building design with regards to the green roof area. Aaron said there is a mininum 6” depth for growing media. There needs to be 6”-24” of media to cover beams. They have the drainage plans in place. They are using EPRO waterproofing. Carina has sent us the specifications. There is a question of whether the membrane system includes a root barrier, especially up the sides of stem walls.
We talked about retaining the growing media on steep slopes and the potential need for additional material (i.e. Hydrotech plastic web product). This decision should be flushed out before the roof is poured and the waterproofing membrane installed.
Lisa recommends installing the International Leak Detection Service and will pass on the contacts to Carina so she can contact them directly.
There was conversation of about the budget as the Landscape team felt that $200,000 is too low. Aaron spoke about getting materials donated and soliciting additional donations from Countries will to “sponsor trees.”
Museum programming: archival and temporary exhibits. Educational component huge and a strong affiliation with the LA Public School District.
Scheduling:
Design: Weekly meetings, to collaborate on design with Carina and Aaron, will take place on Thursday at 10:00am pacific time until late December. We will include Hagy and Mark to seek approval on design milestones.
Construction: (Carina will send updated schedule)
Roof pour 12/30/09
Waterproofing 1/15/10 (43 day float)
Landscape install 4/19-5/19/10*
Flatwork complete 4/19-5/19/10
*Landscape installation will have to be staggered to accommodate all exterior building construction to avoid destruction of landscape.
Conceptual Framework:
Avoid prickly or strong architectural forms. They like voluptuous, voluminous grasses or plants with a similar feel. The palette should be relatively subtle and simple. BIG FLUFFY DOG.
Building materials: concrete and glass. The concrete is Colton concrete which has a whiteness to it.
The color accents in the palette of the planting design should be minimal so there are punches of color at different locations. There could be variations of blue and green. Don’t bring a lot of attention to it. It is important how it integrates into the adjacent park. They like the idea of subtle movement in the plant material. One grass with two unique features that is evocative. Greens that contrast with grass of the park, a variation of grass. Sea Green and/or gray greens. No chartreuse.
The glass on the building is 55% translucent, white film with a green tint. Whitish, grayish, green aluminum (clear, anodized) framing around the glass. Stainless steel railings. The monument is polished black granite. No water features as part of the plan.
Existing trees are California Sycamores which cast beautiful shadows on south walls- there are 3 large ones which are staying. There is also a concrete amphitheater adjacent to the building.
Pedestrian access: 3 main entries. The view sheds of the se approaches are important to the experience of the museum:
Entry= long ramp underground. Plants flush with guard rails. An opening cut out of the earth. The entry symbolizes the world as it was (pre WWII). The audience experiences the content together. The story gets darker and the group experience gets separated. Dark no light, descends into the earth, low ceiling. As the future progresses with the story of Israel, light comes back into play. Memory and story are being told underground and under the park. The park or landscape is oblivious but also could be one of reflection. Landscape is like the time before Adam and Eve.
Another area of interest is north of the monument. The mechanicals need to be screened. 2’ soil depth here. Needs to be softened.
12” is the average soil depth.
Landscape Design Meeting
Thursday, October 22, 11:00am
Present: Carina Bien-Willner, Aaron Leppanen, Lisa Lee Benjamin, Karla Dakin
Minutes
The conversation started around technical aspects of the building design with regards to the green roof area. Aaron said there is a mininum 6” depth for growing media. There needs to be 6”-24” of media to cover beams. They have the drainage plans in place. They are using EPRO waterproofing. Carina has sent us the specifications. There is a question of whether the membrane system includes a root barrier, especially up the sides of stem walls.
We talked about retaining the growing media on steep slopes and the potential need for additional material (i.e. Hydrotech plastic web product). This decision should be flushed out before the roof is poured and the waterproofing membrane installed.
Lisa recommends installing the International Leak Detection Service and will pass on the contacts to Carina so she can contact them directly.
There was conversation of about the budget as the Landscape team felt that $200,000 is too low. Aaron spoke about getting materials donated and soliciting additional donations from Countries will to “sponsor trees.”
Museum programming: archival and temporary exhibits. Educational component huge and a strong affiliation with the LA Public School District.
Scheduling:
Design: Weekly meetings, to collaborate on design with Carina and Aaron, will take place on Thursday at 10:00am pacific time until late December. We will include Hagy and Mark to seek approval on design milestones.
Construction: (Carina will send updated schedule)
Roof pour 12/30/09
Waterproofing 1/15/10 (43 day float)
Landscape install 4/19-5/19/10*
Flatwork complete 4/19-5/19/10
*Landscape installation will have to be staggered to accommodate all exterior building construction to avoid destruction of landscape.
Conceptual Framework:
Avoid prickly or strong architectural forms. They like voluptuous, voluminous grasses or plants with a similar feel. The palette should be relatively subtle and simple. BIG FLUFFY DOG.
Building materials: concrete and glass. The concrete is Colton concrete which has a whiteness to it.
The color accents in the palette of the planting design should be minimal so there are punches of color at different locations. There could be variations of blue and green. Don’t bring a lot of attention to it. It is important how it integrates into the adjacent park. They like the idea of subtle movement in the plant material. One grass with two unique features that is evocative. Greens that contrast with grass of the park, a variation of grass. Sea Green and/or gray greens. No chartreuse.
The glass on the building is 55% translucent, white film with a green tint. Whitish, grayish, green aluminum (clear, anodized) framing around the glass. Stainless steel railings. The monument is polished black granite. No water features as part of the plan.
Existing trees are California Sycamores which cast beautiful shadows on south walls- there are 3 large ones which are staying. There is also a concrete amphitheater adjacent to the building.
Pedestrian access: 3 main entries. The view sheds of the se approaches are important to the experience of the museum:
Entry= long ramp underground. Plants flush with guard rails. An opening cut out of the earth. The entry symbolizes the world as it was (pre WWII). The audience experiences the content together. The story gets darker and the group experience gets separated. Dark no light, descends into the earth, low ceiling. As the future progresses with the story of Israel, light comes back into play. Memory and story are being told underground and under the park. The park or landscape is oblivious but also could be one of reflection. Landscape is like the time before Adam and Eve.
Another area of interest is north of the monument. The mechanicals need to be screened. 2’ soil depth here. Needs to be softened.
12” is the average soil depth.
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